No, I’m not just “beating” on the Fundie weirdos:

The following off-site source encapsulates the fundamental problem to which I was alluding in the previous (admittedly snarky) post:

With regard to what the site designates as “Conservative” Christians:

They see their own faith group, as based upon the Word of God as expressed in the Bible. Generally, they believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. Most believe in the traditional Christian belief that an individual will be sent to Hell when she/he dies if she/he has not first repented of their sins and then been “saved” by trusting Jesus as Lord and Savior, while still alive. This would include essentially all members of non-Christian faith groups and many members of Christian denominations.

They may view other world religions as one of the following:

bullet only partially true, or
bullet mostly worthless, or
bullet influenced by Satan or
bullet actually controlled by Satan, or
bullet a variety of Satanism.

In addition, many conservative Christians do not recognize other Christian denominations as being truly Christian. This is seen in their local ministerial associations which are frequently separate from the mainline/liberal Christian ministerial group in the same city. It is also seen in their attacks on more liberal Christian denominations and on new religious movements which teach beliefs that are different from their own, and at variance from historical Christian beliefs.

One of the most common types of complaint mail that we receive demonstrates this exclusion of other Christian faith groups: Letters from Fundamentalist Christians often complain that we include such groups as the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Unificationists, etc. in our lists of Christian denominations. They often regard Catholics as Pagans, Mormons as Gnostics, and Jehovah’s Witnesses, Unificationists, etc. as an anti-Christian cults.

Quite frankly, any even reasonably honest (self-proclaimed) “christian” would have to admit that — given the pervasive lack of anything even marginally resembling “unity” among the various “Christian” denominations, there’s a better than even chance that any given individual claiming to have been “saved” (or even merely to consider him/herself a “Christian” — is LYING.

ESPECIALLY “Fundie” Protestants:


Off-site links:

Yes, well: you should get the idea:

Bottom line: There are a vast (and proliferating) number of variants of stuff CLAIMING to be “Christianity” — both explicitly affiliated with a particular “Denomination” AND a myriad of (supposedly) “Non-Denominational” groups.

(Nearly) all of them consider (nearly) ALL of the rest to be: mistaken/deluded/evil/a “Satanic Counterfeit”/a form of Satnanism, etc.

So, there is no way to “know” whether any given “Christian” (originating from beyond your own shitty little “clique”) is “really” a Christian, or not.

They can claim to have been “saved”.  They can even “sincerely believe” it.   The problem with that is: the Non-Christians whose “souls” you’re all so intent on “winning” (Hindus/Buddhists/Jews/Agnostics/Atheists, etc.) also “sincerely” believe stuff which you all just “know” (without bothering to examine or learn about any of it) to be “Satanic Counterfeit” bullshit.

Quite frankly, any and all self-proclaimed “Christians” should be horrified at the amount of “souls” being “won” by the myriads of “disguised Satanism” masquerading as Christianity.

Further, there is no way to “know” which form(s) (if any) are the “real” version of Christianity.

For all any of you know, the “real” version of Christianity could have been forcibly exterminated centuries ago, simply after having been (mistakenly) declared a “heresy”.




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