This diagram is much less informative than it appears:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-q2d4A4N5arw/TmEoB9jCjOI/AAAAAAAAC5k/daRnstnWPJE/Agnostic%252520v%252520Gnostic%252520v%252520Atheist%252520v%252520Theist.png?imgmax=800agnostic252520v252520gnostic252520v252520atheist252520v252520theist

 

As I’ve said elsewhere, the “debate” between “Atheists” and “theists” is extremely uninformative, because it fails to explicitly define the core terms around which the “debate” is supposedly centered.

For example: consider a “debate” between “Weasel-ists”, and “A-weaselists”.  Until you define the term “Weasel” in such a way that ALL “sides” of the debate can agree on what they’re discussing, there can be NO genuine “debate”.

So, for example: the “theism” espoused by (say) Norse “pantheists”  is radically dissimilar to the “theism” exhibited by the various “Abrahamic” religions — to say nothing about hte tremendous amount of diversity WITHIN each of those Abrahamic religions, themselves.

(Hint:  the “atheist” tendency to implicitly — or explicitly — lump all self-described “Christians” together, and treat them as one, undifferentiated mass flies in the face of what those “Christians” have been doing to one another for MILLENIA, and continue to do to one another, up to the current time.

(Most of the 38,000+ “Denominations”/Non-denominational variants of “Christianity” don’t even consider one another to be “True” Christians.

For all of various “Christian” groups’ attempts to torture/slaughter what they consider to be “heretics”, there have been at least two major “waves” of disunity in the so-called “Body of Christ”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation

The above two “schisms” have resulted in 3 major variants of “Christianity” — none of which  actually regard the others as being representative of “True” Christianity.

This has culminated in the following major variants of “Christianity”:

  1. The (so-called) “Orthodox” churches (Greek/Russian, etc.)
  2. The Roman Catholic church
  3. Thousands of “Protestant” Denominations
  4. An amorphous morass of so-called “Nondenominational” Protestant groups

The above is just one of the many reasons why any individual contemplating getting involved in Christianity after childhood, should think long and hard about which — if any — variant has any genuine claim to “legitimacy”.

Now, notice something: This is all WITHOUT bringing in Judaism — and the myriad of Jewish counter-arguments  against various core Christian dogmas.

So, yeah: most “Christians” are (comparatively) ignorant of the dogmas/practices of any form of “Christianity” beyond a fairly limited swath of stuff which happens to be theologically “close-by”.

This is PARTICULARLY glaring when you consider the “KJV-Only” whack-bags.

At any rate, “debate” between the four “quadrants” mentioned in the above diagram is — unlikely, and is most likely guaranteed to be extremely uninformative even when it DOES take place.

 

 

 

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